If you loved Dr. Jordan Peterson’s interview with Cathy Newman, in which he UTTERLY EMBARRASSED her, you’re gonna love this.
Dr. P sat down with Anne McElvoy, senior editor at The Economist and head of Economist Radio, for the Intelligence Squared show, and at the bottom of this post, I’ve attached the full hour (which is well worth watching), but the part that’s getting all the attention is the last several minutes, during which Anne, just like Cathy, cannot HELP but twist Peterson’s words into something they’re not. And just like his interview with Cathy Newman, Dr. Peterson sits calmly, doodling even, and tells her what’s what.
That last bit where she tries to shame him for making money? REPREHENSIBLE. I don’t have near the level of patience that Dr. Peterson does, and I would have straight up asked her if she took a salary for her podcast, because WTF. Why is the voluntary financial support given to him by his followers and admirers any of her freaking business?
And I just loved how he positively SCHOOLED her on antisocial behavior. She’s all (paraphrasing), “So you think women use gossip and innuendo as their modus operandi to release or display aggression?” And he’s like, “It’s not that I THINK that, it’s that all the clinical literature indicates it.” And she goes, “Well, I’m not interviewing the clinical literature, I’m interviewing YOU. What do YOU think?” And he replies, “I’m a psychologist and a scientist and I tend to base my opinions on what I’ve read in the broad, relevant, clinical literature. I’m not making this stuff up. I studied antisocial behavior for like 15 years. I’m quite an expert on it.”
His comments about the division in the US for the past five election cycles was kinda interesting, wasn’t it? And it’s fascinating that he can’t “quite put his finger” on Trump yet. You know Trump is a wildcard when a renowned psychotherapist is still trying to make sense of him.
Anyway, here’s the full interview. Enjoy!